@billyshakes also, if you asked for the sake of figuring them out to play in the same key, I do a few things (because like I said playing them from the same root took some relearning). I think of them in terms of numbers, (I forgot the names and I don't bother learning them).
So for example, if I get stuck for example in iii mode, I'll count the notes starting on the degree as it relates to the major scale: so 3 to 4 is half step, 5, 6, 7 whole step, 8 half step, etc. Once I hear the sound of it, then I rely on my ears.
Also I'm the most familiar with major scale, V dominant mode, and relative minor VI. Now, the guitar because of its tuning is stacked in 4s. So I have this hack that I call know the fretboard by adding in 3s. So if I play the minor iii mode, right below it is the minor VI; 3+3=6. The whole fretboard works like that save for the difference between g and b strings where you have to shift one fret over and you need to adjust for major 7 vs dominant 7, right below 4th is the dominant 7
@paulmcevoy75 do whatever works, you know. But CVH has a video out there where he's basically demonstrating modes. Except he doesn't call them modes, he just calls them positions and the base of it is something very much scale based. But yes, I know he advocates enriching your musical vocabulary by learning existing licks and phrases. I do that too. But I'd be limiting myself if I only did that.
And, playing and practicing straight scales is not a best way to go about. Learn the scale, do enough repetitions in order to be able to start a creative exploration and that's where majority of one's time should be spent with scales. Except at this point they're simply your own phrases and lines, not scales any longer.
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@billyshakes also, if you asked for the sake of figuring them out to play in the same key, I do a few things (because like I said playing them from the same root took some relearning). I think of them in terms of numbers, (I forgot the names and I don't bother learning them).
So for example, if I get stuck for example in iii mode, I'll count the notes starting on the degree as it relates to the major scale: so 3 to 4 is half step, 5, 6, 7 whole step, 8 half step, etc. Once I hear the sound of it, then I rely on my ears.
Also I'm the most familiar with major scale, V dominant mode, and relative minor VI. Now, the guitar because of its tuning is stacked in 4s. So I have this hack that I call know the fretboard by adding in 3s. So if I play the minor iii mode, right below it is the minor VI; 3+3=6. The whole fretboard works like that save for the difference between g and b strings where you have to shift one fret over and you need to adjust for major 7 vs dominant 7, right below 4th is the dominant 7
@paulmcevoy75 do whatever works, you know. But CVH has a video out there where he's basically demonstrating modes. Except he doesn't call them modes, he just calls them positions and the base of it is something very much scale based. But yes, I know he advocates enriching your musical vocabulary by learning existing licks and phrases. I do that too. But I'd be limiting myself if I only did that.
And, playing and practicing straight scales is not a best way to go about. Learn the scale, do enough repetitions in order to be able to start a creative exploration and that's where majority of one's time should be spent with scales. Except at this point they're simply your own phrases and lines, not scales any longer.