Stochelo & Mozes and Antoine Boyer are coming nere me in October

Joonas

There's a guitar festival coming in October and this year both Stochelo & Mozes and Antoine Boyer are booked. 😦 Oh boy what I'm gonna do. The tickets are quite pricey (for me at least) but I haven't met this kind of opportunity in a long time. If I have to pick one I'll go with Stochelo but something tells me that Antoine will be the star of this event. He's young, he's hungry, he's versatile and at the top of his game. There's a competing event that came with Diknu Schneeberger a few years ago (where I went to) but what has been spamming classical guitarists ever since. And now this. I'm stunned.

Buco

Check if Stochelo and Mozes will share the stage at some point, that way it's like 2 for 1. Antoine is awesome of course but his versatility also means you might hear the least Gypsy jazz from him.

Joonas

@Buco Ah, yes, I should've been more correct. Stochelo and Mozes are coming together with a project where they play Charlie Chaplin's music, but obviously in their own style.

BillDaCostaWilliams

I saw their Charlie Chaplin themed set last year at the Nice Jazz festival and enjoyed it a lot though many of the tunes were unfamiliar to me. Just seeing and hearing the two of them in person was such a buzz.

They did include a couple of non CC tunes also.

Joonas

Last friday was that concert. It has to be one of the best concerts I've ever been to. I've been more astonished maybe before when I didn't know what to expect but now I did know what was coming but still, it was world class and I've seen some world class players before (like Steve Vai with Billy Sheehan on bass for example).

I was second row first seat on the right from the middle, just in front of Stochelo (I knew he was gonna be on the right). Both Stochelo and Mozes were using little microphones on their guitars and both had little amps aswell. Stochelo was playing with a Wegen Big City pick or at least something very similar to it. I showed my Big City to another guy in the audience and he was sure it was the same pick (I myself am a bit short sighted but it did look like it). Mozes sounded like he was picking harder, maybe using a thicker pick. But that could also be due to how close I was to the stage. Although Stochelo was in front of me, his guitar was projecting diagonally away from me. And Mozes' guitar at the same time was projecting towards me. What else... Neither Mozes or Stochelo were using Argentine strings. Their strings didn't have textile wraps around them. Both guitars had tuners on the headstocks all the time, although they did actual tuning maybe once or twice during the show. Different tuners though, couldn't tell the makes.

And the bassist Matheus Nicolaiewsky was also great. His strings had red wraps if I recall correctly so if anyone knows about those something?? He had plenty of solo spots and he played great. Never used a bow of course.

They played Chaplin tunes but also For Sephora, Mozology, Godfather Theme, Minor Blues and finally Minor Swing for the encore (they played the first solo in unison). Maybe their was something else too I'm forgeting right now...

All in all I noticed that both Stochelo and Mozes play rhythm more loosely than Nousche. Nousche sounds like a sewing machine but Stochelo and Mozes were playing arpeggios and sometimes using their fingers to pluck the strings and the overall feel was different from the Rosenberg Trio. But then again the repertuaire was also different.

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paulmcevoy75

Sounds cool I wonder what the strings were.

Red wrap bass strings may be spirocores. They sound better as they get older and last forever.

pdg

The Stochelos have traditionally used Galli silk and steel strings, I think. There may be two types of those (at least there used to be).

JasonS

Red wrap bass strings would definitely be spirocores. You can tell the gauge by the silk color at the pegbox end. They do indeed last quite a long time, several years if not more!

paulmcevoy75

https://www.djangobooks.com/forum/discussion/comment/126224#Comment_126224

I used to work at David Gage in NYC a long time ago and if people replaced their spirocores we would keep them in a box and if someone has no money we'd put the old spirocores on their bass and it would immediately make the bass sound fucking awesome.

Pretty sure people had them on for decades but it's been a while.

Universally sound like shit with the bow though, if I remember correctly. Kind of like Paul Chamber's bow sound played through a Boss Heavy Metal pedal. I could be wrong.

JasonS

https://www.djangobooks.com/forum/discussion/comment/126225#Comment_126225

Yeah! One of my basses currently has 10+ year old Spiros and sounds awesome. I somewhat disagree on the bowed tones, it really depends on the bass/player but I think Spiros can sound great under the bow on the right bass. They were originally designed as orchestral strings after all. They wouldn't be my first choice if I was primarily playing arco though. I didn't know you worked at Gage, that's awesome! I'm sure you got to play a lot of amazing basses in that shop!

paulmcevoy75

https://www.djangobooks.com/forum/discussion/comment/126240#Comment_126240

Yeah it was cool. It was a long time ago, 1999-2001 (I left prior to 9/11, it was super close to there). I either met or saw every famous upright player ever...Charlie Haden, Ron Carter, Bob Dylan's bass player, etc etc.

I learned a lot about hand tool work and definitely still use some of the stuff I learned there. It was a funny classical NYC experience. I ended up not doing anything with Lutherie for about 18 years afterwards.

Spirocores are probably fine with the bow sort of but there are better choices I think. I don't think any NY orchestra players used them but my memory is foggy.

I think there was a minute when Gary Karr's bass was next to my bench. I remember Charlie Haden's bass as well. But tons of amazing instruments. Plenty of working class shit too.