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  • paulmcevoy75paulmcevoy75 Portland, MaineNew
    Posts: 719

    I think there's a lot of pleasure in playing a really well thought out maximized instrument, don't get me wrong. That's what I hope to do. I think it can be inspirational and keep you involved and practicing. I certainly don't enjoy playing junky stuff.

    At the same time I hope that if I was not as lucky as I am in general and all I could ever afford was some dirty effed up hulk of a guitar, that I would still play it and enjoy music.

    Stuff that to me is super sonically un-ideal, like maybe sticking paper subway tickets under your bridge feet, clearly worked for some people.

    BillDaCostaWilliamsTheGarethJonesBucovoutoreenieflaco
  • B25GibB25Gib Bremerton WA✭✭✭✭ Holo Busato, Dell'Arte Hommage, Gitane D-500, Gibson ES295, Eastman AR805
    Posts: 230

    The polytune by TC Electronics is excellent. I've had mine for 5 years and like BUCO said, The full temperament (like a piano tuner adjusts) sweep of all six strings shows you what very minor "tweaking" is needed. I also like the metal clip design that doesn't weaken over time and break like the the plastic ones! Expensive tuner but expensive.

    Buco
  • Posts: 360

    I find these discussions super interesting and am in no way suggesting they shouldn’t be had, but for any beginners that may browse while considering all of the elements necessary to become “good” at gypsy jazz and worrying their cheap guitar isn’t good enough, I would tell them not to fret 😉

    Yup, this.

    TheGarethJones
  • billyshakesbillyshakes NoVA✭✭✭ Park Avance - Dupont Nomade - Dupont DM-50E
    Posts: 1,767

    I find these discussions super interesting and am in no way suggesting they shouldn’t be had, but for any beginners that may browse while considering all of the elements necessary to become “good” at gypsy jazz and worrying their cheap guitar isn’t good enough, I would tell them not to fret 😉

    I just like the (intentional?) fret pun. 😂

    BucoTheGarethJonesvoutoreenie
  • B25GibB25Gib Bremerton WA✭✭✭✭ Holo Busato, Dell'Arte Hommage, Gitane D-500, Gibson ES295, Eastman AR805
    Posts: 230

    Thanks to the previous two posts addressing the original poster question of is a cheap guitar adequate to learn GJ style on. Well partially true for me. I started in 2003 on a '65 small body parlor style B25 Gibson. Not cheap, but small volume and no GJ voice. Got me going. Good follow up posts guys!

    Bucovoutoreenie
  • TheGarethJonesTheGarethJones Boston/ParisNew Altamira M20, Gitane D-370
    Posts: 110
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    Coincidentally I pulled out my Parker Fly yesterday to record some stuff I was working on and I put on these flatwounds on it and D string is way off on the 12th fret. It's really odd how much sharper it is compared to the tuned open D. Can a string intonate badly? I've never seen it this bad and this guitar was always as good as it gets intonation wise. Since the day I took it from the store (probably 26 years ago) I never had to move the string thingy for intonation.

    Every note wants to go somewhere-Kurt Rosenwinkel
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    Maybe your ears got better. I know mine have.

  • paulmcevoy75paulmcevoy75 Portland, MaineNew
    Posts: 719

    Did you intonate it for that string? Each gauge and each type should intonate differently. Can you adjust it?

    A string can be of poor quality and have issues but it sounds like you need to intonate for the string.

  • JoonasJoonas EstoniaNew Altamira M
    Posts: 112

    @Buco It's certainly the string, the whole set really. It doesn't suit that guitar.

    I have a somewhat reverse eperience as I tried Thomastik-Infeld Bebop strings (11-47 set) on my Ibanez Artcore hollowbody. Those are roundwounds and I usually have flatwounds on it. It was impossible (I don't exaggerate) to get any playable intonation with those strings on that guitar. Maybe the strings were too light, maybe the unwound G played a part, but it sounded horrible no matter what.

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