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Very fast lick in All of Me

JoonasJoonas EstoniaNew Taylor 210
edited September 2 in Licks and Patterns Posts: 84

OK, so I transcribed Django's version of All of Me a while ago. All the solos. It may not be a perfect transcription but basically I'm being content with it. But there's that super fast guitar lick in the last chorus (bars 111, 112 and 113) that I have a real problem with. If you listen to the last chorus once you'll know what lick I'm talking about. I came up with something that kind of fits but I can't play it. Has any of you played that lick and what are you playing there? I'm trying to practice what I've written but I don't seem to make progress.

Anyway, here's what I have currently written down for it (Note: the red coloured notes mean nothing, it's some Musescore quirk):


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  • paulmcevoy75paulmcevoy75 Portland, MaineNew
    Posts: 633

    I'd try going 12 on E and 15 on B for the first two notes and play it up a position (1st finger on 12th fret). It might help with the double downs you have on that first part.


    Just a thought.

    Joonas
  • paulmcevoy75paulmcevoy75 Portland, MaineNew
    Posts: 633

    and start the first note with an upstroke.

    Joonas
  • edited September 2 Posts: 5,709
    Every note wants to go somewhere-Kurt Rosenwinkel
  • adrianadrian AmsterdamVirtuoso
    Posts: 580

    That's an interesting one! I've just transcribed it myself, and here's what I came up with:

    We arrived at some different conclusions. πŸ˜„ The fingering throughout (strings/frets) is up for debate, but I can definitely say you got the last two notes of bar 2 wrong. They're clearly D-B, an enclosure around the final C note.

    I recorded myself transcribing this, in case it's mildly interesting to anybody:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeS09uleTbU

    I wasn't able to figure out the middle two notes of the second bar, as they're either too quiet or Django didn't actually play there. More details in the video.

    Adrian

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  • JoonasJoonas EstoniaNew Taylor 210
    Posts: 84

    @Buco Yes, that's the lick.

    @adrian Thank you very much, Adrian! I'll get my guitar in about an hour and start trying again with this lick.

    Bucovoutoreenie
  • Posts: 5,709

    Nice overview creating a slice. Figuring out the timing first and then adding the notes is not something I've done before, cool tip. And, was it your washing machine (the beeping sound in the background, I thought at first it's something in my place) that was calling you at the same time @adrian ?

    I agree about the missing note before the second phrase but I'll just use it like in my video below. It's just easier for me to retain it this way. That rest makes it trickier. Even though that was the genius of Django, the space he created. But this one could've been a missed note as well.

    As for how to practice this, I play it at half tempo until it's well under my fingers. Then I'll play at wherever tempo I hear the song. Which is usually good bit slower than what's on the recording. When something is challenging, I practice it at tempo in very small chunks. Especially the chunks that are the trickiest. And I use my two minutes woodshed approach drill it. Not so long ago this would've been impossible for me to play. I'll add this one to my anki stac.

    JoonasBillDaCostaWilliamsadrian
    Every note wants to go somewhere-Kurt Rosenwinkel
  • billyshakesbillyshakes NoVA✭✭✭ Park Avance - Dupont Nomade - Dupont DM-50E
    Posts: 1,714

    @adrian Thanks for the pro's view of Soundslice. Cool to see how efficient you are with the software (no surprise) and your transcribing process.

    Like you, when I slowed it down to the granular, I didn't really hear anything but clicks in those 2 middle notes. However, when I play it at regular tempo, my ears fill in the blanks with an E and back down to D again before the B. As far as the mechanics of the lick go with my fingers, that seems to keep the momentum of the phrase and is easier to play for me. As a musical idea, I like the symmetry and repetition of the two same descending phrase patterns, though one starts in the middle of the bar and the second is displaced one triplet note to the left of beat 3 in the next bar. Seems like something Django would do, getting mileage out of a simple arpeggio idea by altering its starting point. Just my 2 pennies.

    Bucoadrianwim
  • adrianadrian AmsterdamVirtuoso
    Posts: 580

    @Buco Yes, that was indeed my washing machine in the background! Nice job transcribing the background sounds of my video. 😁

    Yes, right onΒ β€” figuring out the rhythms first, and then filling in the notes, is (to me) the easiest and clearest transcription method. It separates the task into distinct steps so you don't have to juggle too many decisions at once. Glad I could turn you on to this method!

    Adrian

    billyshakesBucoDoubleWhiskyBillDaCostaWilliams
    Give my albums a listen: Melodic Guitar Music and Layer Cake
  • Posts: 5,709

    πŸ‘ With this in mind maybe I'll go back and try to finish Soundslicing a transcription I mostly did years ago but couldn't figure out how to notate the timing of the last few bars to save my life, Clifford Brown solo on Sandu.

    Every note wants to go somewhere-Kurt Rosenwinkel
  • JoonasJoonas EstoniaNew Taylor 210
    Posts: 84

    @Buco Thank you very much to you too, Buco! So this is how you play it:

    You guys helped me out of the corner.

    BillDaCostaWilliamsJasonSBucowimbillyshakes
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