OK now I'm back to wondering if I'm a stupid idiot and measuring incorrectly...at the time of purchase, Michael listed the action for my Dupont at 3mm and I've never made any adjustments to it, same with the Altamira that I didn't get from him but also never adjusted.
0.6 mm at the 12th fret ?! It would sound like a grasshopper's fart. And I would have thought even 1.6-1.7mm would be almost unplayable.
If the neck is straight as an arrow (and most guitars aren't), you can sometimes get away with the 2.0-2.5mm range - particularly if you play gently / with a mag pickup. But the 2.5-3.0mm range is probably going to be an improvement, acoustically. When I say a range, it's because the bass strings typically want a higher action than the treble side.
My rule of thumb is that the black gator grip pick (which is 2.0mm thick) should fall through the strings at the 12th fret.
@wim Well, since I can fit a 2.0mm gator pick easily between the low E and frets at the 12th fret of my Altamira, I'm thinking this is a case of I'm a stupid idiot...so on that note, glad I could contribute absolutely nothing to this thread!
Now please excuse me while I go see if there's such a thing as remedial elementary school for adults...
Guitars set that low can be played gently, but if you hit them hard they will choke out
Maybe not a problem if you're a gentle player (e.g. Remi Harris), definitely a problem if you're a heavy hitter (e.g. Jon Delaney). And I think this is not really a matter of how well the guitar is set up or how straight the neck is, but the basic physics of how much the string displaces when vibrating. Oscillating at a higher amplitude it will start to hit the frets
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Wait Buco...the action or me being an idiot? If the latter, I can make that happen anytime for you.
OK now I'm back to wondering if I'm a stupid idiot and measuring incorrectly...at the time of purchase, Michael listed the action for my Dupont at 3mm and I've never made any adjustments to it, same with the Altamira that I didn't get from him but also never adjusted.
How are you measuring? When all the stars align, I've had my Ivanovski at 2mm and it played beautifully. So I'm not saying; no way, can't be done.
0.6 mm at the 12th fret ?! It would sound like a grasshopper's fart. And I would have thought even 1.6-1.7mm would be almost unplayable.
If the neck is straight as an arrow (and most guitars aren't), you can sometimes get away with the 2.0-2.5mm range - particularly if you play gently / with a mag pickup. But the 2.5-3.0mm range is probably going to be an improvement, acoustically. When I say a range, it's because the bass strings typically want a higher action than the treble side.
My rule of thumb is that the black gator grip pick (which is 2.0mm thick) should fall through the strings at the 12th fret.
@wim Well, since I can fit a 2.0mm gator pick easily between the low E and frets at the 12th fret of my Altamira, I'm thinking this is a case of I'm a stupid idiot...so on that note, glad I could contribute absolutely nothing to this thread!
Now please excuse me while I go see if there's such a thing as remedial elementary school for adults...
You can sandwich a 2.0 pick with a thin 0.5 (or 0.7) pick together, and try that.
Well, I dropped the 2mm gator and it got stuck. The guitar plays across the entire fretboard without a single buzz point.
Guitars set that low can be played gently, but if you hit them hard they will choke out
Maybe not a problem if you're a gentle player (e.g. Remi Harris), definitely a problem if you're a heavy hitter (e.g. Jon Delaney). And I think this is not really a matter of how well the guitar is set up or how straight the neck is, but the basic physics of how much the string displaces when vibrating. Oscillating at a higher amplitude it will start to hit the frets
I don't know man, I'm whacking it hard and it's not choking out.
I think it is. I can definitely hear the strings slapping against the frets.
Low action does not always sound buzzy, it can also be a displeasing "thwack" sound on the attack.