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  • ArcticguitarArcticguitar Anchorage, Alaska
    Posts: 23

    Kungfumonk, if you go through my channel the spring to summer videos are all KM184s in either xy or ortf stereo. It’s mostly ORTF, the first few are xy but once I discovered ORTF I never went back. Then from August on it is mostly mid side with the KM 184 as the mid and the ribbon as the sides. But there are a few mono ribbon experiments in there too. The most recent video, Bei Mir Bist Du Schon, is mono from the ribbon. Mid-side is my favorite, it has excellent mono compatibility, is easy to set up, and is perfect for the sound I’m after. I like messing around with the set up because it is a fun exercise, but if I had to pick one set up it would be mid-side stereo. If I had to just use one mic, it would be the ribbon. I could never get a sound I liked from just a single 184. Plenty of folks get a great sound from that set up, I just never figured it out. My experience has been that the best course of action is to listen to a bunch of stuff, then buy a couple mics and experiment until you get the sound you want. The nice thing about KM184s is that there are a ton of them on the used market, if you take your time and bargain hunt you can find them at reasonable prices.

  • richter4208richter4208 ✭✭✭
    Posts: 521

    The "if I had you" video above sounds great! I prefer it over the other setups. Nice presentation ArcticGuitar! The stereo Km184 is too bright for me but the midside setup is just the best of both worlds it seems.

  • ArcticguitarArcticguitar Anchorage, Alaska
    Posts: 23

    Richter, I agree. I could never figure out how to work with the 184. The mid side set up seems to turn the “piercing brightness” of the 184 into “pleasing clarity”.

  • edited March 2021 Posts: 4,738

    By the way this is a recording with TLM 102. Nothing remarkable except I think it's a true capture of how my guitar sounds. I didn't do any kind of post eq-ing. I'd have to check but it sounds pretty dry, so I don't think there's any added reverb either.

    Being mono it's narrow sounding on the headphones but one trick I sometimes use is to duplicate the track, just copy/paste, and then pan them each to the side a little, maybe 40% to the left/right. That opens it up nicely.

    Lango-DjangonomadgtrWilliekungfumonk007billyshakes
    Every note wants to go somewhere-Kurt Rosenwinkel
  • ScoredogScoredog Santa Barbara, Ca✭✭✭✭
    Posts: 872

    Since I was mentioned , my setup is a KM184 with an Amek Neve Pre. I don't think one needs to get such a high end pre to get a great guitar sound but I record more than guitars and just made sure I had a high end pre. I prefer to get a clear recording which the Neuman gives me but I'll always eq the track to taste so I might pull highs off depending on what is surrounding it. I kind of prefer cutting rather than adding frequencies.

    Buco
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