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Discovery on the origins of the song "Babik" ?

MitchMitch Paris, Jazz manouche's capital city!✭✭✭✭ Di Mauro, Lebreton, Castelluccia, Patenotte, Gallato
edited December 2012 in History Posts: 159
Hi to all,

I'm pretty excited, I think I've found something!

Listen to this Count Basie Song, "It's sand, man" (nothing to do with Metallica hey :lol: ...) at 0'49.

The riff is exactly the same phrase than in the A part of Django's "Babik"! years before Django recorded it and mixed it with GIllespie's "salt Peanuts" to use as B part of his "Babik"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H0RT-N_tTM

For some reasons I can't dispaly the Youtube video inside this message (?)

Comments

  • Its quite possible that Django heard it, maybe even copied it though with a musical memory like his it may well have been unconscious.

    There is a phrase that Benny Carter uses in his solo during Farewell Blues that shows up in djangos solo in Blues Clair (gypsy with a song)
    The Magic really starts to happen when you can play it with your eyes closed
  • Matt MitchellMatt Mitchell ✭✭✭
    Posts: 44
    this Duke tune sounds a lot like Cavalerie:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kBbV_YQimI
  • Joli GadjoJoli Gadjo Cardiff, UK✭✭✭✭ Derecho, Bumgarner - VSOP, AJL
    Posts: 542
    Are you saying that Count Basie invented the Gypsy Jazz?
    Or that Django was listening to the tune when his son was born, and that he made it his own tribute, even if not conscious ?

    There might be an interesting story behind this indeed...
    - JG
  • Joli GadjoJoli Gadjo Cardiff, UK✭✭✭✭ Derecho, Bumgarner - VSOP, AJL
    Posts: 542
    this Duke tune sounds a lot like Cavalerie:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kBbV_YQimI

    It does sound exactly like it!!!
    - JG
  • MitchMitch Paris, Jazz manouche's capital city!✭✭✭✭ Di Mauro, Lebreton, Castelluccia, Patenotte, Gallato
    Posts: 159
    This recording of the Count is 5 years older than the first recording of "Babik".
    And Babik was born in 1944 !

    Also (I guess everyone knows this one) Tuxedo Junction and Artillerie Lourde. Listen to the background riff that starts at 0'15


    And thanks Matt for the Duke ellington track, that's obvious, I had never heard this song before.
    Thanks!
  • bopsterbopster St. Louis, MOProdigy Wide Sky PL-1, 1940? French mystery guitar, ‘37 L-4
    Posts: 513
    There's also a similarity between Raymond Scott's "Powerhouse" (1937) and Django's lick in "Rythm Futur" (1940):

    Lick begins at 0:19
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaC0vNLdLvY
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