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Dupont Purchase Advice

Hi everyone, new to the boards, but not new to gypsy jazz and I'm happy to have found this site!

I've been playing GJ for the last couple years (other styles for much longer), first on a nylon stringed Harmony flattop and then borrowing a Cigano GJ-10. I decided that it was time for me to purchase a quality Selmer of my own.I found a Dupont MD-50 for sale locally, and I wanted to sanity-check the deal with you all.

It's a June 2000 MD-50G (according to the owner). I've never heard of a G model, and I can't find anything at all in my research online about it. I thought maybe he misread the label and that it was an MD-50C, but the picture clearly shows the petit bouche. Does anyone know of there being a G model? The owner says he purchased it directly from Maurice at a Django festival in France. The only negative is that it has a small crack on the bass side of the soundboard from tailpiece to bridge.

It comes with a "custom" Fralin p90-style pickup and 5 sets of Argies and he wants $2k even for it. I know new MD-50's go for much more, but is this an appropriate price for a 13 year old model with a crack in the top (repair estimates were $80-160 from Elderly)? Is there anything in particular that I should look out for with this model when I go see it this weekend? I've played plenty of Gitane's, Dell-Arte's, some Le Voi's, and various other low-to-mid range GJ guitars, but I haven't gotten my hands on a Dupont yet. I'm hoping this will be my main guitar for the foreseeable future.
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  • BohemianBohemian State of Jefferson✭✭✭✭
    Posts: 303
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uea5BMOx0a4

    http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/msg/3953911333.html

    Is this the guitar?

    Have you considered a Dupont Nomade for $100 more, available from Djangobooks?
  • Yes, that's the guitar. I have considered the Nomade, but I didn't see any reason to choose it over the MD-50 at these prices unless this MD-50 turns out to be a dog. Any reason why you'd recommend it over the used MD-50?

    Incidentally, what do you think of the tone based on the video?
  • pickitjohnpickitjohn South Texas Corpus, San Antonio, AustinVirtuoso Patenotte 260
    Posts: 936
    Hope the guitar winds up touching your creative spirit.
    If I were around Detroit I'd be checking it out also.
    Best of luck, hope it works out well. Sounds like a great deal.
    Let us know how it goes.

    Pick on

    Pickitjohn
  • BohemianBohemian State of Jefferson✭✭✭✭
    Posts: 303
    "Incidentally, what do you think of the tone based on the video?"
    I had a tough time listening to it. Could nto wait for it to be over. The tone was ok but it was an internet video.

    The reason I mentioned the Nomade... listening to Michaels videos was far more pleasurable.. and you would be getting a new instrument.

    Did Elderly offer any advice/ repair estimate. ?
  • StringswingerStringswinger Santa Cruz and San Francisco, CA✭✭✭✭ 1993 Dupont MD-20, Shelley Park Encore
    Posts: 465
    Hard to tell how it sounds from that video. Seems like a decent guitar at a decent price.
    "When the chord changes, you should change" Joe Pass
  • Well, that was an experience. Thanks again to everyone who shared their advice and knowledge both in the thread and via PM. It helped getting some outside advice from you all.

    I uncased the guitar and my jaw just about dropped. The first thing I see as I'm lifting it out is an expanse of highly figured Brazilian rosewood. Sure enough, I look at the label and it's an MD-50B from June 2000. We played the guitar for 45 minutes, checked out the action, fit, and finish, and I pulled the trigger.

    Once I got her home, it was a couple hours of elbow grease to get the accumulated dust and grime off it. There was even a greenish residue on the fretwire. With a new set of Argies, it really sings though. I can't believe the amount of resonance I can feel in the guitar body compared to others that I've played. I'm even happy with the sound of the Fralin P-90 he mounted. I'm already getting told it sounds like a Stimer.

    I still can't believe I found this guitar for the price. The video really doesn't do it justice. I'm sure I would have been happy with the Nomade, but for the same price, I'll take an older MD-50 any day. I have a loathing for acoustic bolt-on necks, and as someone who's played with budget guitars for a long time, it's beyond refreshing to have a guitar that is 100% capable of everything I could ever want from it.

    Elderly said it'd be an hour or two of labor to repair the crack in the top, so I will probably get that taken care of before the weather starts to change. In the meantime, I'm researching humidifiers. I've heard good things about both the Dampit and the Oasis, just need to figure out if one is a better choice.
  • pickitjohnpickitjohn South Texas Corpus, San Antonio, AustinVirtuoso Patenotte 260
    Posts: 936
    Gypsy Gods LOVE YOU :D

    Good on you mate MD-50B 8)

    Way to go, may it bring SONG & JOY to you, and many who hear it.

    pick on Brother

    pickitjohn
  • I'll say. I took it as a sign. It's funny, I was trying to find every reason to justify not buying it, and I vaguely remember one of my last thoughts on the drive to see it was, "I wish this was Brazilian rosewood like my dad's guitar-then it would be perfect". Nearly had a heart attack when I saw it. :D

    Now it's going to be a matter of living up to such a beautiful instrument. Not that practicing is much of a chore with her...
  • BohemianBohemian State of Jefferson✭✭✭✭
    Posts: 303
    Congrats !!!!!
  • Jeff MooreJeff Moore Minneapolis✭✭✭✭ Lebreton 2
    Posts: 476
    I've played some Nomades and some MDs. The MDs seemed far superior and of 5-6 I've played, all were keepers.
    I'm sure your convinced enough by now, but a 50B of any age at that price is a yes.
    You'd think a top crack would ruin the sound. But usually not. Don't know why.
    "We need a radical redistribution of wealth and power" MLK
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