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5.0mm picks -- Wegen Fatone, Trimus 500?

I've been enjoying the tone that Duved gets from his 5.0mm pick, on his leads. (Obviously, his technique and guitar plays a part!) Wondering whether anyone has experience playing leads with a 5.00mm pick and, if so, what shape works or doesn't work. Does the tone retain treble response and "cutting" ability, or does it become more muddy?

Duved uses custom picks, but Wegens are available, beveled and with thumb indentation, right off the shelf.

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  • Posts: 301

    No input on this and apologies for the thread drift but does anyone have a pic of Duved's pick? Now I'm really curious to see what it looks like

  • rudolfochristrudolfochrist Worms, GermanyNew Dupont MD-100
    Posts: 153

    @voutoreenie As far as I know Duved plays one of these: https://nicksansonejazz.com/artisanal-musical-accessories/

    I tried one, not my cup of tea. For rhythm it kind of works for me, adds more volume, but there is no way I can solo with it. I also have the Wegen 5mm. It is exactly the same. Unusable for lead for me.

    voutoreenie
  • GondebaudGondebaud New
    Posts: 19

    I use trimus 500 because it is very addictive. To first order, it provides stronger but warmer sound. But the attack velocity needs to be increased to get more highs, which will easily be thick. It is like the Doppler effect, if you're familiar with it: a fast interaction of a thick rounded pick is equivalent to a slower one with a thinner pick. It means that everything is possible with any pick thickness,it is up to the player, his preferences. It depends on what needs to be compensated to the guitar too (if it's too dry or bassy etc). Another point, the virtuosity/ease: with a thick peak, you're less accurate, but iti i easier to hold, and reciprocally. Advantage/drawback for each, but good player on both sides !

  • pdgpdg ✭✭
    Posts: 614

    I should add that shaping the bevel can make a huge difference. I have a triangular 4mm Red Bear casein pick that was unusable, until I shaped the right-hand bevel until I got a crisp tone.

    djazzy
  • MikeKMikeK Asheville, NCNew Altamira M-30 D-Cedar, Gitane DG-320 John Jorgensen
    Posts: 520

    I love my Wegen Fatone 5.0's (I have 3) and I use them exclusively for gigs where I only play rhythm. For this task, In my opinion, they cant be beat. I find myself occasionally trying to use them when I solo (while practicing at home), but they're just a tad too big for me to get the single notes out clearly and cleanly every time. I wish I could use them for rhythm & lead, it would make things just a little bit simpler for me. Recently, I've noticed that I seem to be getting better at getting the single notes out with them, so maybe if I keep dabbling with them for soloing, things will improve. We'll see.

  • Posts: 475

    I have a pick PEEK pick based on one of Django's picks. It is VERY similar to the button that wegen makes but it is bigger. IE more to hold onto. Not thicker. I've thought about asking Wegen to make me one that is bigger.

    I have the same shape made with casein as well.

  • pdgpdg ✭✭
    Posts: 614

    Interesting! Who made them, and do they work for leads? How does the tone differ between them for leads, and also compared to some standard pick?

  • Posts: 301

    Just ordered a Duved model - even if I don't end up using it, really interested in comparing how it sounds next to other picks.

    rudolfochrist
  • Posts: 475

    EML made them. But it looks like he's not making them anymore. I use them for both lead and rhythm. It takes a little bit of getting used to.

    The casein seems a little warmer but the PEEK doesn't wear at all. Even though the casein is 4mm thick it's still bent/molded to my thumb a bit.

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