Hey, I wanted to chime in here with a point about this kind of talk in our community.
From time to time, people complain about how gypsy jazz is mostly a man's world. At any given event, whether a jam or a festival, it's mostly dudes and few women.
I think most (all?) of us would agree it'd be great for this music if more women were involved, both as musicians and as listeners. Making statements like "Who's the hot chick"
-- even if innocent and with no bad intentions -- sends a message that this is a boys' club. At best, it can make women feel uneasy; at worst, it can dissuade them from participating entirely.
I don't mean to single out the people in the "Who's the hot chick" thread (and I realize it's almost five years old!). I've seen many posts on this forum over the years that objectify women -- again, likely with no bad intentions, just in subtle ways. Point is, we can and should do better. If more people get interested in gypsy jazz, we all benefit.
this forum attracts more international people, i saw it as more of a cultural thing when i saw that rimm was the one who posted it. i've met him quite a few times, really nice family guy. we even had a little small internet clash a while back, but words hardly ever convey the way people really intend things. Rimm is definitely Irish hahahaha. I don't mean that in a bad way at all , but every where you go, there are different cultural conventions that might surprise people... you go to holland or germany, it's not uncommon to hear black people being referred to as.... well i'm not even going to see it... are they actually racist? i'm not sure, but when i've heard dutch/germans speak those words, they said it so very casually, it just seemed so normal to them. It definitely made me uncomfortable but i wasn't going to go on a tirade about not using those terms with them... sometimes one's cultural upbringing strongly influences one to think in a particular way that may sound "offensive" but where none was intended.
I have mixed feelings about political correctness, as with many things, it's a double edged sword.
all this to say, i have contributed absolutely nothing to this thread...