wich "grand bouche" to buy?

rottjung

i saw a Gitane D-500 for 525 € case incl. and a Dell Arte "Hommage" for 535€
which one to buy...??!!

and what other D-holes are there around that price?

also, i read this http://www.harmonycentral.com/products/100185
they seem to be very pleased and it cost less then half of the other two...?

Jim Kaznosky

I'd guess for that price, the Hommage is the "lesser" Hommage. If so, I'd go for the D-500, if it is a choice between the two. I've played a D500 at a shop in NYC and it sounded pretty good to my ears. I recall doing some poking around here and some folks seemed to think the Ciganos sound better than the D500. I played Cigano D-hole at a jam and it sounded pretty good...sorry I don't recall the model. I haven't had a chance to compare all of these options together, so it's all hearsay, I guess.

Steveareno

I started on an Aria MM20. They're okay for the money if you're on a really tight budget, but there was slight hump at the 12th fret and the frets were not very good. I ended up trading up to an older (made in US) Dell Arte Latcho Drom (Favino size like the Hommage) which is like night and day...a much, much better guitar. I'd go with the Dell Arte, if you can afford it. I think you'll be happier in the long run. It should also hold it's resale value pretty well. I've played a few Cigano Dholes (Michael sells these for a great price)...and they seem like good solid, basic GJ guitars.
Swang on,

redblues

$520 for a D-500 with case is a bargain, go for it. Nothing wrong with the Hommage, just remember it's the chinese one not the US one.

rottjung

The gitane D-500 is by saga i think. so is it always Chinese if made by saga?
and yes i guess the Dell Arte is a "lesser" one. also by saga probably
my dell arte dg-h2 oval hole is also Chinese (also saga? lolz seems like no matter what i'll end up with one of them) and it's very well finished. it does have a little bit humming, which i will visit the store for where i bought it. but else i'm very pleased with it.
but okay if a D-500 for a bit over 500€ is a bargain i guess i will go with that one.
seems like the new price is around 700 up to 900, and a hardcase around 70€ so i guess it isn't a bad deal. one think i don't like is that it's a 12th fret to the body...
I got a cigano DJ-10 which also isn't bad but no compartment to the dell arte, but i don't think i would buy a second one. just thought maybe the aria mm10 would be an exception but seeing the prize category i guess it's in the cigano league.

Link

These are re-badged Chinese Dell Arte DG-H1's with, I believe, a different tuner/tailpiece...

http://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_hbmc500.htm

redblues

Ah, if you want 14 frets just get the Dell Arte. There is not that much difference in sound to have to live with 12 frets if you play lead.

rottjung

Link wrote:

These are re-badged Chinese Dell Arte DG-H1's with, I believe, a different tuner/tailpiece...

http://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_hbmc500.htm

how do you found out these things
@ redblues i know but for some stupendous reason i would rather have to different ones... i mean not both dell arte. but hey i know thats plain silly to base a decision on.

and now i found this... :shock: http://www.selmerguitar.com
dunno if it's for real... it's a bit a strange site (lacking info) but i mailed some of the offers so i hope they respond... the prices on there are sweet!
and now don't you guys go buying all the cheap D-holes on there ;-)

klaatu

rottjung wrote:

and now i found this... :shock: http://www.selmerguitar.com
dunno if it's for real... it's a bit a strange site (lacking info) but i mailed some of the offers so i hope they respond... the prices on there are sweet!

If you click on the More Info links, they lead you to eBay listings, so this seems to be just a compilation of eBay items.

rottjung

klaatu wrote:

rottjung wrote:

and now i found this... :shock: http://www.selmerguitar.com
dunno if it's for real... it's a bit a strange site (lacking info) but i mailed some of the offers so i hope they respond... the prices on there are sweet!

If you click on the More Info links, they lead you to eBay listings, so this seems to be just a compilation of eBay items.

if i click the big more information button it leads me to this?
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/navi ... ID=3945051

klaatu

rottjung wrote:

klaatu wrote:

rottjung wrote:

and now i found this... :shock: http://www.selmerguitar.com
dunno if it's for real... it's a bit a strange site (lacking info) but i mailed some of the offers so i hope they respond... the prices on there are sweet!

If you click on the More Info links, they lead you to eBay listings, so this seems to be just a compilation of eBay items.

if i click the big more information button it leads me to this?
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/navi ... ID=3945051

Guess it depends on which item you are looking at. The ones I clicked went to eBay, but others apparently lead elsewhere.