Music always grows and changes - beginning with certain attributes and evolving. Django proved this best. But since Django and many other gypsies proclaim that they simply play jazz, at what point does Gypsy Jazz stop becoming Gypsy Jazz.
I post this question in the History section because as we've discussed here and elsewhere, the music started to change during Django's life time and after he died it continued to change. Ninine Garcia's most recent CD has a couple of standards on it and with exception to the rhythm guitar, it doesn't sound much like a Gypsy Jazz recording (he isn't even playing a Selmer style guitar). Patrick Saussois' version of "The Song Is You" is taken largely from Grant Green. Philippe Nedjar's CD is more of a straightahead CD, which features some Django compositions - and were it not for the picture on the cover, I doubt anyone would have guessed he was playing a Favino/Stimer. As a baseline, here are some solid definitions to work from:
Jazz Manouche: This is Gypsy Jazz, Jazz Tzigano Parisian, Swing Tzigane, Hot Club music, Trad, old school, classic - whatever noun is used to describe Gypsy Jazz.
Straightahead: Augmenting this a little for our purposes, but we'll define this word as being anything with an attempt at obtaining a more American sound, but includes pre/post war Swing styles, bop and hard bop.
This thread should go deeper than bland statements like "Well, who first called Gypsy Jazz Gypsy Jazz? Because it's just a label..." Yes, it is just a label, I'm interested in people thinking about the music itself. What does a Gypsy (or Gypsy style) guitarist bring to table that a straightahead player doesn't, and vice versa?
I'm interested in your thoughts.