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It's a Sin to Tell a Lie?

PassacagliaPassacaglia Madison, WI✭✭✭✭
edited October 2009 in Repertoire Posts: 1,283
Just figured out the chord grille from this song, from "Playback La Pompe" on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUa_1tz3LW0&feature=sdig&et=1254101089.06).

I'm interested in this tune, but haven't seen anything in the way of gypsy players doing it (might have just missed it) - anyone know of a recording of this?

[By the way - can anyone confirm that the A7 at the end of measure 15 is, in fact, an A7b5/F#? - first played at about 1:03].

-Paul
pas encore, j'erre toujours.
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  • WowBobWowWowBobWow Another Time & SpaceNew
    Posts: 221
    Thanks for the link! Great tune.

    here are the chords of the video in case it helps someone....

    Songform is "A1A2"

    "A part"
    //C---/G7---/C---/C---/

    /C---/E7---/F-A7/Dm6/

    "1"
    /G7---/G7---/B7---/C---/

    /D7---/D7---/Edim/G7---/


    "A part" (again)
    /C---/G7---/C---/C---/

    /C---/E7---/F-A7/Dm6/

    "2"
    /F---/Fm---/C---/A7---/

    /D7---/G7---/C---/G7--//
  • JackJack western Massachusetts✭✭✭✭
    Posts: 1,911
    You can also find a lead sheet in pdf form here.

    best,
    Jack.
  • PassacagliaPassacaglia Madison, WI✭✭✭✭
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    Fantastic, many thanks, both.

    Confusion over the progressions I see here, v. what I saw from what he played, and what he presented, the chords, onscreen.

    I suspect I'm not home enough in harmony theory to be able to understand why what I'm seeing may be, in essence, the same thing I'm seeing now in terms of chords/progressions. Here's the tune, as I had it:

    F Fm C6/9 A7 D7 G7 C6/9 G7
    C6/9 G7 C6/9 C6/9 C6/9 E7 F/[A7b5/F#] Dm6
    G7 G7 B7 C D7 % E° G7
    C6/9 G7 C6/9 C6/9 C6/9 E7 F/[A7b5/F#] Dm6

    -which seems like a mess, to me (not what I'm accustomed to seeing, in terms of standard progressions), but I believe that's what the player had, yes? And playing it through, I like the sound....just doesn't "look" right....any thoughts?


    (In the video, the A7 - is he not playing it A7b5/F#? (I've got it at measures 15 and 31).
    pas encore, j'erre toujours.
  • JackJack western Massachusetts✭✭✭✭
    Posts: 1,911
    Maybe it's throwing you off that he's using the last line of the tune (F Fm C6/9 A7 D7 G7 C6/9 G7 ) as an intro? The tune itself doesn't pick up until what you have as line 2. If you move your first line to the end, you end up with basically the same progression as the pdf. (Try singing along with it if that's not clear.)

    C6/9 G7 C6/9 C6/9 C6/9 E7 F/[A7] Dm6
    G7 G7 B7 C D7 % E° G7
    C6/9 G7 C6/9 C6/9 C6/9 E7 F/[A7] Dm6
    F Fm C6/9 A7 D7 G7 C6/9 G7

    About the A7, I don't see/hear a b5; it looks more like a shape similar to this:


    --3-
    --2-
    --0-
    --2-
    --0-
    --2-may be just muted...

    Hope that helps,
    Jack
  • PassacagliaPassacaglia Madison, WI✭✭✭✭
    Posts: 1,283
    Sorry for the late reply, some weird issue with FF/Mozzilla and warning filters, couldn't get on the site without wading through a ton of annoying hoops.


    At any rate, Jack, can I just say "duh," and if I look sufficiently :oops: -faced enough, can I be let off the hook? :lol: ...guess it "sounded good" because it was the right chords, just from the end of the song on....

    Thanks again...

    Paul
    pas encore, j'erre toujours.
  • Posts: 1
    Above you asked for a recording to "It;s a Sin to Tell a Lie".
    Don't know about one that Django did,but being you're from
    Chicago, I became familiar with this song as it was a regular
    in Steve Goodman's repotoire. He recorded it a couple of
    time, last one I know about was a remix on the tribute
    double cd. He did it live a lot.
  • PassacagliaPassacaglia Madison, WI✭✭✭✭
    Posts: 1,283
    Above you asked for a recording to "It;s a Sin to Tell a Lie".
    Don't know about one that Django did,but being you're from
    Chicago, I became familiar with this song as it was a regular
    in Steve Goodman's repotoire. He recorded it a couple of
    time, last one I know about was a remix on the tribute
    double cd. He did it live a lot.

    Thanks, Gary. I'll try to find it...the only one I'm seeing is a single tribute CD:

    http://www.amazon.com/Tribute-Steve-Goodman-Various-Artists/dp/B000000DLZ

    But I'll keep looking.
    pas encore, j'erre toujours.
  • François RAVEZFrançois RAVEZ FranceProdigy
    Posts: 280
    Why don't you try the real thing : the Ink Spots

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLE3f0kWjoM


    Best

    François RAVEZ
  • edited October 2009 Posts: 2
    hello. ((hello to all since its my first post on your forum)

    for the A7 in this playback i just made a regular A7 with open string..((cos it was convenient and close to the F shape that i did))

    thats not a (gypsy jazz chord for sure)) but well as long as its sound like a A7 for me its ok

    so here the shape in fact its the basic A7 shape :) ....i dont use it often i think its my first vid where iam using this shape


    have fun
    ciao

    --0--
    --2--
    --0--
    --2---
    --0---
    --0---

    ((and i just play the 4 string in the middle? (maybe?)))

    otherwise yes the 8 first bar are in fact de 8 last bar((of fats waller singing) i used as intro cos its hard to start on time while following the recording

    so best is yea to sing the first 8 bar before start to play..


    then start

    ..trying to follow the recording of fats wallers on this one :wink: (but without all the nuance..cos these guy where great.. unlike me :lol: :lol:
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