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Gypsy Jazz Amplification/Pickup System Overview

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  • MichaelHorowitzMichaelHorowitz SeattleAdministrator
    I just added a review of the Evans RE200. Wow....great amp!











    Evans RE200



    Evans RE200 Solid State with Cover



    This amp has the rare combination of small size/weight with massive 200
    watt power and a 10" speaker (all the other amps above have smaller 8"
    speakers). If you need tons of volume with a huge sound all in a small
    package, this is probably your best bet.



    The Evans amps were originally designed for, and by, pedal steel
    players. Jazz musicians adopted them because they have a warm, clean
    tone and are very well built. They are all hand made by one guy in
    North Carolina.



    Tonally, the main thing this amp does is add a certain amount of
    "color" to the sound. AER, Schertler, and the GypsyKat are a little
    purer in the way the reproduce your sound. The Evans is nice because it
    can tame just about any type of input...even the rattiest, quacky
    sounding piezo pickup will sound fat, thick, and buttery through the
    Evans. This tonal warmth does come at a cost though....you loose some
    definition. Especially when playing chords. Other acoustic amps are
    crisper, but also harsher. The Evans is very warm but a bit "foggy."
    However, it really shines at higher volumes. The crisp definition you
    get with an AER, Schertler, etc sounds harsher and harsher the louder
    you turn up. Those amps sound their best at lower volumes. The Evans is
    the opposite...the louder you play the better it sounds. It's thick,
    warm tone sounds amazing when you really crank it. It's very hard to
    play loud without getting a harsh grating tone....the Evans will keep
    it's warmth even at very high volumes!



    The Evans would be my top choice for use with a Stimer or any other
    magnetic pickup. The color it adds does wonders for the Stimer tone
    (which can be overly bright and thin through other amps.) There's a
    second input which adds 6db...this input is best for bigtones and other
    similar pickups. Bigtones sound fantastic with this amp....again, you
    get less definition but A LOT more warmth.



    The 10" speaker produces a huge, complex sound that makes the other 8"
    equipped amps sound small and overly directional by comparison. Your
    sound will propagate much better with this larger speaker, and the low
    end response is the best of any amp reviewed here. Also, there's a
    collapsible stand that will tilt the amp up at 45 degrees. That really
    helps get the sound out as well.



    It should be mentioned this amp has only one channel. If you're running
    multiple pickups then this amp is not for you. The one channel does
    have two inputs and you can use them in tandem. But it's not really
    ideal.



    One other outstanding feature of this amp is the sheer amount of tonal
    control you have. In addition to treble and bass, you have expansion,
    buff, depth, and body controls. You can get an amazing amount of tonal
    variety from these. I especially like the body control which thickens
    the mids in a nice way. The expansion is also nice...it adds very high
    frequencies that will give your sound a more "acoustic" vibe. It even
    makes a humbucker sound acoustic like. Very cool...



    There are two versions of this amp. One is the regular solid state
    model. The other is the Hybrid which has a tube preamp. Even though the
    solid state doesn't have a tube, it still sounds very, very warm and
    tube like. It has more definition, especially when playing chords. the
    Hybrid adds the super fat tube sound. It makes your lead lines sound so
    nice, but does cloud chords somewhat.



    The Evans is a bit heavier then the AER but lighter then a Unico. It's
    25 pounds, so it's
    easy to carry. Unfortunately it doesn't have the super cool, pocket
    laden type gig bags that the AER and Schertler amps have.



    I've
    definitely gotten
    the biggest reaction from gigging with this amp then any other. People
    I've played
    with for years constantly remarked on how good these amps sound and
    begged me to keep using them.




    In conclusion, I'd say the Evans is the "tonal insurance" amp. No
    matter what, it's always going to sound good and be loud enough. Other
    amps may be lighter, smaller, more "acoustic" sounding, or have more
    flexibility (more channels, etc). But the Evans will always sound good
    in it's own buttery sort of way. But if you tend to play at lower
    volumes, then the size and power of this amp may be overkill.









  • MichaelHorowitzMichaelHorowitz SeattleAdministrator
    I just added this review!








    Phil Jones CUB AG-100



    AAD Phil Jones CUB AG-100 with Gig Bag

    AAD
    Phil Jones CUB AG-100 with Gig Bag






    This is the ultimate micro amp....it's hard to
    beat with 100 watts, only 11lbs, and a price under $500. If all you
    need is a portable, inexpensive, no frills amp and don't want to
    sacrifice tone then this is it. The CUB is really warm, even, with a
    full spectrum of
    response from deep lows to sparkly highs. It sounded fantastic with the
    Stimer....much, much better then an AER compact 60 which is a bit harsh
    and mid rangey by comparison. Often with the AER I'm constantly
    tweaking the controls to just get a tone that I can live with. However,
    with the CUB it sounded great no matter what I did with the tone
    controls. You could really use the tone controls to taylor the sound
    rather then just find something that's passable.



    I've also used an archtop with a humbucker and a bigtone with the
    CUB and got better results then with an AER.



    I compared the CUB with an Acoustic Image Clarus amp with a Raezers
    edge speaker which, IMO, is the benchmark "holy grail" of transistor
    jazz amps. The CUB performed very well tonally, a bit more diffuse and
    cloudy with less detail. The low end was especially lacking with the
    CUB. But overall, the CUB's tone was not too far from Acoustic Image
    and at a fraction of the price (the Acoustic Image rig will cost you
    around $2000!) and a third the weight (the Acoustic Image w/Raezer's
    edge 8" speaker is 32 lbs.) the CUB is a great deal!!



    The CUB was somewhat more prone to bass feedback....not too bad though.
    The Acoustic Image/RE has the best feedback resistance of any amp.
    The biggest issue with the amp is volume. If you're not using a high
    output pickup then you probably won't get enough volume. The Stimer
    through the CUB produced more then enough output for a pretty loud
    restaurant gig. I just had to be conservative with the tone
    controls....if you cut too much mids or bass you'll loose a lot of
    volume. But since the amp sounds great with a totally flat setting it
    wasn't a problem.
    This is one area were the AER compact 60 really performs....it's easily
    twice as loud as the CUB. But the CUB has a better tone.



    One good thing is that the CUB sounds great with the volume on 10. No
    distortion or harshness. I've found that if I use some external device
    to boost my input gain (like a preamp or volume pedal) then I can
    squeeze even more volume out of the amp. The Cub can actually get
    pretty
    earsplitting if you do this...but you start to run the risk of
    distortion.



    The CUB only has one channel with a 1/4" input and only has basic tone
    controls. There are no effects, but it does have an effects loop if you
    want to add them. If you need multichannel functionality, xlr inputs,
    or effects then this amp is not for you. It's bare bones, but sounds
    great if all you need to do is just plug and play.



    The amp comes with a great little gig bag w/shoulder strap and is just
    joy to transport. So light, you'd hardly notice it. It's like carrying
    a purse!





  • djangologydjangology Portland, OregonModerator Dell Arte Hommage
    how is the volume of the Acoustic Image Chorus III compared to the Unico? It says its 400w vs. 160w and so I am wondering if you can tell the difference in person? i am wondering because it appears it would be louder and weighs only 2/3rds as much right?
    ---
    "I want to party like its 1939!"
  • MichaelHorowitzMichaelHorowitz SeattleAdministrator
    djangology wrote:
    how is the volume of the Acoustic Image Chorus III compared to the Unico? It says its 400w vs. 160w and so I am wondering if you can tell the difference in person? i am wondering because it appears it would be louder and weighs only 2/3rds as much right?

    The Acoustic Image Corus is easily over 2 times as loud as the Unico. I'm afraid to even turn it up halfway!

    'm
  • mneelymneely Corvallis, OregonNew
    I play in a GJ band here in Oregon. I have K&K pickups in all of my guitars (they are made in Oregon). The "Pure Maccaferri" pickup sounds very good (for $78) if I run it through a Baggs pre. I have run it direct and through my Fender Ultralight Acoustasonic with excellent results. Pay more if you want...

    --Matt
  • Dr. HallDr. Hall Green Bay, WisconsinNew
    I have installed the K&K Pure Maccaferri piezo system in all of my gypsy guitars, d-hole or petit oval hole models alike, and I'm seriously considering their Pure Archtop system for my archtops. If you can get your hand inside the soundhole to adhere the piezo discs and don't mind drilling the 1/2" end-pin jack hole, for $70-something you will have the most natural acoustic sound you can get through an amplifier. You could always get a luthier or competent tech to do the work for you if you're sqeamish. I run the K&K through an AER or the house p.a. without a pre-amp (though I like to use an equalizer pedal for really loud gigs). Plenty of volume, ultra-natural, hollow, no-quack, gypsy sound. Even more expensive systems can't beat it.
    -Stefan
  • BluesBop HarryBluesBop Harry Mexico city, MexicoVirtuoso
    My experience:
    I'm just coming back from a gig at a local jazz club...
    I used the Shertler Basik with an AER compact 60, the sound engineer put a good mic in front of my guitar (a Dupont MDC 60) so the amp was just used as a monitor.

    What happened was that I was really pleased with the sound for the soundcheck... but for the actual performance it was just too tiny and didn't cut through for leads, people's chatter at bars is really loud man!
    It worked great for rhythm and comping but all the dynamics and articulation got lost for solos, it made me feel uncomfortable and I screwed up a good percentage of my playing.

    I found the bigtone (which is what i normally use) to be better and much more reliable for lead playing, but... sucks for rhythm in my opinion. Every time I used it I've been forced to do anything but the pompe when accompanying my brother's solos on sax or I would be too loud and too "clacky".

    I think it's essential to have two different sounds and/or volume levels for lead and rhythm playing.

    So, for the next time we play at that bar (or anywhere else for that matter) I think what's gonna work the best is using the BT (maybe with a little Basik mixed in) for all the solos and then turning it off with a circuit breaker cable and using the Basik by itself for rhythm.
    Maybe using an EQ pedal set for less volume and a more suitable rhythm sound with the BT might also work. A volume pedal could be an option as well.

    By the way the AER is amazing! I can carry it easily with one hand and I have never needed to crank it to the max even on really, really loud situations (drums, big theather, etc) the sound quality it's pretty good too!
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  • PowerfibersPowerfibers Buffalo, New YorkNew
    Looks great. Any idea how much in US$?
    Bob Maulucci
    http://www.djambossa.com
    New CD out now, "Moonflower"
  • Caravan GSECaravan GSE Madison, WINew
    I like many of you have run the gamut of different amps an pickups and have never been happy with the tone they produced We also have tried just using mics and traditional monitor rigs with no luck.

    After 400+ gigs here is what we do in Caravan Gypsy Swing Ensemble with no problems. We each run AKG C1000S mic into the vocal line of a Trace Elliot TA100 acoustic amp. This functions as a glorified stage monitor. We then take the pre-eq line out of the amp to the PA head. The TA100 is the perfect amp for that because it has a notch filter and a 5 band eq for the vocal line so you have a lot of control. It is an expensive rig but I just do not have feedback problems and PURE acoustic tone. I have been able to play in some pubs with thunderous crowd dins with no trouble.

    Our other guitarist also did this for a while with a Fender Acoustisonic amp. It proved problematic due to the fact the fender had only 2 tone knobs for the vocal channel and no notch.

    I hope this helps!

    Chris
    Chris Ruppenthal
    Caravan Gypsy Swing Ensemble
    www.gypsyswing.com
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