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Tortis pick

Josh HeggJosh Hegg Tacoma, WAModerator
Has any one ever tried one of these out?

http://www.elderly.com/accessories/items/TORTGJ-RD.htm

I'm really interested in finding out how well they work.
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  • ramsezazramsezaz Paris, FranceNew
    Posts: 90
    Hello,
    I bought one 2months ago...
    I was quite disapointed...
    At first I was happy with the sensations...it plays well...
    but the sound is really awful...sounds like a plastic pick...
    I switched back to my eversliping wegen :) at least I got a descent sound with it.
    my lutherie blog : http://ramsezaz/blogspot.com
  • Josh HeggJosh Hegg Tacoma, WAModerator
    Posts: 622
    ramsezaz,

    thanks for the post. I thought that might be the case. I have played with a real shel pick before and it was just great. But that was a $75 pick.
  • langleydjangolangleydjango Langley, WA USA✭✭✭✭
    Posts: 99
    I use a Tortis "GypsyJazz". It is about 2mm thick but was the size of a boat paddle when I got it (I've been meaning to write to the manufacturer about this strange interpretation of what makes a pick "Gypsy Jazz").

    I took out my dremel tool and resized it to the size and shape of a wegen twin. Now I think it's great. But expensive.

    But the sound comes from your right hand not what is held in it. I just happen to like the feel of the tortis. It doesn't sound much different than any of the other picks I have.
  • Josh HeggJosh Hegg Tacoma, WAModerator
    Posts: 622
    I had to shape my Dugain picks as well so I know what you mean. The Dugain picks are not as big but still need work.

    Do you think the the Tortis is worth the money?
    How does it match up next to a Wegen?
  • Ted GottsegenTed Gottsegen Rowayton, CTModerator
    Posts: 615
    Having played a variety of horn and actual shell picks (and just about everything else which claims to have the same sound and feel as turtle shell) I think it's as close as you're going to get.

    If you're coming from a Wegen or Dugain background - or the type of heavy picks most Gypsy Jazzers favor, than the tortis will sound like shit. However, I should caution all of you guys to remember that back in the 1930's, heavy turtle shell (1-2MM max) was what everyone (from Eddie Lang to Django to George Van Eps) used in the 30's, 40's and 50's - not the sizes used today. The Tortis picks sound especially good on heavy-strung acoustic archtops where the pick-noise from thicker Gypsy Jazz style picks are out of control.

    Best,

    Ted
  • PatrickPatrick Paris, FranceNew
    Posts: 29
    Yes, I agree with Ted. Playing a lot of bluegrass on medium gauge phosphore bronze strings (13-56), my experience is that the thicker the strings, the thinner the pick needs to be (otherwise you get too much pick noise mainly and the strings don't bend easily under the pick). On the other side, the thinner the strings, the more open the choice for pick thickness (and pretty thick picks work well). And then, since the strings give loose, the pick can be thick and still you won't get too much pick noise.
    Just my personal experience on this subject.

    Take care,

    Patrick.
    Paris, France
  • MichaelHorowitzMichaelHorowitz SeattleAdministrator
    Posts: 5,817
    However, I should caution all of you guys to remember that back in the 1930's, heavy turtle shell (1-2MM max) was what everyone (from Eddie Lang to Django to George Van Eps) used in the 30's, 40's and 50's - not the sizes used today.

    Do you mean that the shell used back in the 30s was limited to 1-2mm or ALL shell is limited 1-2mm?

    Fapy made me a tortoise pick which pretty similar in shape and contour to a Wegen Gypsy jazz....about 3.5mm. But maybe thicker shell is more available now and it wasn't then?

    'm
  • ramsezazramsezaz Paris, FranceNew
    Posts: 90
    I'll give the Tortis a second look...as i like the feel of it...
    But as you said, coming from a Wegen, it sounded like sh*t .
    Well, I guess it's this damn right hand again...
    Anyone knows where I can find another one ? even a used one ? (right hand that is, i did not throw that $30 pick away) :P
    my lutherie blog : http://ramsezaz/blogspot.com
  • Ted GottsegenTed Gottsegen Rowayton, CTModerator
    Posts: 615
    ramsezaz wrote:
    I'll give the Tortis a second look...as i like the feel of it...
    But as you said, coming from a Wegen, it sounded like sh*t .
    Well, I guess it's this damn right hand again...
    Anyone knows where I can find another one ? even a used one ? (right hand that is, i did not throw that $30 pick away) :P

    Hit that website http://www.redbeartrading.com/

    What I would suggest is to just start playing with it (maybe not at gigs or jams), but just when your practicing. They are definitely great for when you've got your Stimer working, too.
  • Josh HeggJosh Hegg Tacoma, WAModerator
    Posts: 622
    I couldn't find the thicker (gypsy) one on the site. But it is here if you want to order for $30
    http://www.elderly.com/accessories/items/TORTGJ-RD.htm


    Cheers
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