Where does this phrase come from?

BillDaCostaWilliams

I’ve been following Christiaan van Hemert’s series of videos where he transcribes phrases from Django’s Rome recordings. In particular his take on Question and Answer phrases used in rhythm changes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwu3AkZNlQ0&t=1303s

There’s one “question” phrase I often play that I picked up from hearing both Stochelo Rosenberg and Samy Daussat

Unknown phrase_ Samy Daussat.mp3

employ it over rhythm changes. I have always thought of it as part of a bebop head but when trying to identify it recently, I sorted through all the rhythm changes heads I could find on Youtube and elsewhere to no avail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzMhGj-YXww

So maybe it’s a bebop blues head rather than RC.

It’s got me baffled but I imagine that for some folks here the answer is really obvious.

dennis

Django used it in Babik and also Festival 48

Josechiky

https://www.djangobooks.com/forum/discussion/17003/where-does-this-phrase-come-from

Where did you take that excerpt phrase from Samy Daussat from?

BillDaCostaWilliams

https://gypsyguitar.de/11393/gypsyguitar-the-secrets-vol.2/cd

richter4208

Sometimes life is synchronistic, I just learned that lick from an Adrien Moignard video yesterday. He changes the lick to be more "symmetrical" at fast tempos. If you listen carefully its more dissonant sounding than the the traditional way but easier to play blazing fast,

lick is at 1:57 (video should already be at that spot when you open link)

https://youtu.be/XucBEiiijQc?t=115

richter4208

Josechiky

https://www.djangobooks.com/forum/discussion/comment/98884#Comment_98884

Thank you!

BillDaCostaWilliams

That Adrien Moignard version is blazing indeed, and he plays lots of other tasty but learnable licks there too.

richter4208

https://www.djangobooks.com/forum/discussion/comment/98891#Comment_98891

Definitely agree. There are many licks from this tune that are great. Need more time in the day check it all out. Its cool to see these licks pop up in different places from different players. Interesting to see what makes its way into different players vocabulary

wim

Where does this phrase come from, it's just the head from Django's "Babik" (1947), isn't it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qStQpjk-Zhk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bL-IZVxR0M

BillDaCostaWilliams

Thank you Dennis and Wim – now I finally get it.

Talk about looking in the wrong place! I got a bit obsessed and spent quite a bit of time listening to heads played by US bebop artists searching for the phrase as I was sure I recognised it from somewhere. Ironically I just needed to re-listen to Django’s bebop compositions.