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Django - Two Fingers Technique , 47 years old Beginner , I have 3 fingers working just like him

My pinky have trigger illness and not working and ring finger is short and very weak. Other three are normal.
I want to play just as Django. I am beginner to guitar and want to ask a mind boggling question , Django was playing extremelly good but I looked to guitar books and there are thousand of jazz guitar chords. Was he playing without any chord and is there a source which teaches that and the complete two fingers playing ?
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  • swiesslerswiessler NorCalNew Dupont MD20,Gibson L5,Bumgarner F hole(DiMauro type)
    Posts: 42
    Congratulations on finding an interest in something that can keep you happily occupied for the rest of your life. Have patience, practice and improvement will come. Michael Horowitz's book "Gypsy Picking" has several
    arpeggio patterns that can be played with two fingers, and there are transcriptions of Django's solos. There are lots of triad chords to experiment with. Forty seven is young!
    MichaelHorowitzBent
  • PapsPierPapsPier ✭✭
    Posts: 400
    There are some studies dedicated to the hand injury of Django and their conclusion was that the burning caused a kind of retraction of some tendons (for the exact medical description, please check the article) leaving his fourth and fifth finger in a weird kind of rigid, position. However, he could use them: he would use them to play chords by fretting three strings with one finger (the high ones), the pinky being used to reach different frets.

    I dont think there is a specific book explaining the two finger technique: Django didnt have normal hands, they were quite big and he had some extra elasticity. So what he did might not be doable for somebody else.
    However, there are some people that tried to decipher it and decided to play this way: you could check them out to see how they are doing (Christophe Lartilleux for example). there are also from time to time a post discussing how Django could have played this or that lick with only two fingers.

    In your case, I would suggest not to focus too much on how other people managed that but just try to find your own way to reproduce the recordings you like or play the songs you like. You will find your own way, the one that would be fit for your hands. And I believe this would be more satisfying than trying to reproduce a technique developed by somebody else to fit his specific needs. I can see that giving you headaches and tension in the hand and frustrations.
  • Posts: 2,479
    Like Paps said, Django used all of his fingers, only his pinky and ring finger had a very limited function and he didn't use them for single note soloing but he found plenty of use out of them.

    Since you're the beginner, at this time you can focus learning basic chords in a triad form and practice basic picking patterns. If you start a thread with a question about how to play basic chords in your situation, I'm sure people will try to get creative and point you in the right direction.

    Learn songs, chords and simple melodies. In time you'll run into specific questions and challenges that need answers and solutions but you have plenty to work on when it comes to basics. Lots can be done without even having a guitar in your hands, developing a sense of timing, just listening to a lot of music in this genre, or any that interests you, theory of how the chord is constructed and what makes a chord... I'm sure tons more.
    Every note wants to go somewhere-Kurt Rosenwinkel
  • Can you give me a list for players who deciphers and plays like django ?
    Are there youtube videos of these players ?

    Could Django play all jazz important chords with his left hand ?
  • geese_comgeese_com Madison, WINew Barault #105
    edited June 2018 Posts: 147
    These three YouTube channels have lots of songs played with only 2 fingers.

    Christophe Lartilleux: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnlxQ97W-qFFaMUUK51VQkA

    charliesdm: https://youtube.com/channel/UCHnxP5bUX5h7zJ7H4w-B8Tg

    Ori Ben Zvi: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ1jqUV9y_ulYu4P1mIAvng

    Christophe Lartilleux also plays in the group Latcho Drom. I heard he was the finger double for the Django movie, but I do not remember where I saw that.

    It is very interesting watching videos played with only 2 fingers and trying to play with only 2 fingers. You view the fretboard in a totally different way.
    dm7b5
  • Posts: 4
    Hiç sorun değil zaten bu tarz çalanların bir çoğu 3 parmak kullanıyor önemli olan bu tarzı sevmek ve sabır django bunun en büyük örneği,size iyi çalışmalar dilerim eğer bu tekniği çalışmak isterseniz size bazı metodlar önerebilirim,günleriniz güzel olsun.
  • Sevgili Mustafa, benim sağ ve sol serçe parmaklarımda tetikleme denilen , kas hareket ederken engele takılması sorunu var , yüzük parmağımsa çok zayıf , kullanılabilir dediklerim ilk 3 parmak , zaten 47 yaşındayım sakatlanma riski büyük , her django , bandoneon , surbahar dinlediğimde ve endonezya gong u dinlediğimde bunları çalmalıyım diye diye 30 yıl geçti gitti, bir bas gitarım var , onu da 200 liraya aldım , arada bir şeyler yapıyorum, valla ben de gitar alacak para kalmadı , pazartesi çelikten büyük d maccaferri kestireceğim , bugün çok yorgundum , karaköyden çelik alamadım , bir tek sap ve ses tahtası ve oyuk olacak bir de köprüyü ayrı kestireceğim , hepsi 1 mm siyah sac olacak, üstünede epoksi püskürteceğim, vallahi paslanmazdan yapsam çok iyi olacak , belki 35 e 100 bir paslanmaz parça alırım , sap üçgen kesitli olacak , onu da basit bir kalıba polyester dökerek yapacağım , belki sapı ayrı keser , gövdeye yüksek yapıştırırım yada tek parça olur , bir gül den fingerboard kestiririm lazerle, sonrada fret çaktırırım

    sen de maccaferri plan var mı?

    kitapların listesini merakla bekliyorum

    selamlar
  • PapsPierPapsPier ✭✭
    Posts: 400
    I am pretty sure Stephane plays with all his fingers, I remembered him saying at a camp: sure you can try to play like Django with two fingers, but if you have all your fingers working, why not use them (and train them)? Django would have used all his fingers if he was able to
    Teddy Dupont
  • DeuxDoigts_TonnerreDeuxDoigts_Tonnerre Lawrenceville GA USANew Altamira M30D, Gitane DG-250M
    Posts: 23
    I play solos with two fingers even though all my fingers work. My reason is that I want to "think" like Django. I want to try to visualize the fretboard and I want to move about the guitar neck like he did. I also want to get the same phrasing that he did.
    Part of the fun for me is figuring out how he played his solos with two fingers, then being amazed at the simplicity and the pure genius of how he accomplished this.
    I know neither I, nor any of us mortals will ever be as good as Django. But we can at least try to play how he did and go where ever our musical journey takes us. For example, I have played blues and rock for decades, but as soon as I started using two fingers and incorporating some of Django's ideas into my blues solos, they took off in an entirely new and exciting direction.
    t-birdLeonP
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