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Welcome! Rules and Regulations, please read before posting.

Ted GottsegenTed Gottsegen Rowayton, CTModerator
edited January 2005 in History Posts: 615
Hi,

Welcome to the history section. This is an important place in the legacy of Gypsy Jazz as it will cover players who rarely, if ever receive the credit they are due. Because this is such an important topic, and one that I feel has been largely overlooked by the other boards devoted to Gypsy Jazz on the net - (and because I'm the moderator here), I have some rules and regulations which must be followed for all posters on this board.
These aren't meant to alienate anyone, but make people understand that there is much, much more to Gypsy Jazz than discussing technique and all the other pedantic nonsense. Like any advanced course, there are prerequisites. Newbies are welcome and encouraged!

1. If you started your Gypsy Jazz life by listening to Jimmy Rosenberg, or Angelo or anyone else under the age of 45, do not even think of posting until you've examined, in even a cursory fashion, the music of Baro, Matelo, Maurice and Sarane Ferret, Tchan-Tchou, Jacques Montagne, Bousquet, Joe Reinhardt, Schnuckenack Reinhardt, Vivian Villerstein and others of the first two generations. If you are wondering "where can I get music by those guys?" here are some must own CD's highlighting these players:

Jazz a'la Gitan

Gypsy School - Django's Legacy


Baro Ferret "Swing Valses"

Jo Privat/Matelo Ferret "Manouche Partie"


Matelo Ferret "Tziganskaia and Other Rare Recordings"


2. Unlike other boards, stupidity and ignorance is neither wanted nor tolerated. Give us something intelligent to discuss or don't bother posting!

3. All equipment discussions are forbidden, unless it directly relates to pre-1974 Gypsy Jazz artists - or contemporary players who exhibit similar characteristics to these players from the past.

4. All technique discussions are forbidden, unless it directly relates to pre-1974 Gypsy Jazz artists - or contemporary players who exhibit similar characteristics to these players from the past.

5. Please, most of all, let's have fun! I'm here to share my knowledge and experience in regards to these players, but I want everyone to be part and to share as little or as much of their knowledge and experience that they feel comfortable sharing.

That's it! On with the show....

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  • langleydjangolangleydjango Langley, WA USA✭✭✭✭
    Posts: 99

    2. Unlike other boards, stupidity and ignorance is neither wanted nor tolerated.

    Oh...that's just great. I guess this will be MY only post :)


    troy
  • Posts: 20
    When I was reading your ground rules the text did not fit into the window without having to scroll accross the line. It would be more user-friendly to stay inside the box for future messages.

    =={=}

    George

    sorry I would have thought this would be a place to ask questions and not worry about invoking the gypsy police. Perhaps we need another section for the retards.
  • Ted GottsegenTed Gottsegen Rowayton, CTModerator
    Posts: 615
    Hi George,
    When I was reading your ground rules the text did not fit into the window without having to scroll accross the line. It would be more user-friendly to stay inside the box for future messages.

    This was probably due to the long URL's - nothing I can do about that. I figured that that would happen, but I wanted to give interested parties the ability to look directly at the CD's that I highlighted. Michael might be able to do some tweaking to fix that, otherwise, I think that while not an ideal user experience, the result makes up for it.
    =={=}

    George

    sorry I would have thought this would be a place to ask questions and not worry about invoking the gypsy police. Perhaps we need another section for the retards.

    I'm not sure if you're being facetious or not, but either way I'll respond.

    I've more than once been accused of being grouchy and angry, of being obnoxious or overly serious, a loud mouth and even an asshole (all of which are true, BTW :wink: ), but I decided when Michael asked me to moderate this forum, that I would do it my way.

    The reason for the "testiness" is simply because I've been a member of all of the online groups since they began, and slowly watched them melt into boring, uninteresting places where no thoughtful exchanges were made - posts were dull, relegated to gear or technique (or lack thereof), how fast Stochelo can play or other bullshit. Frankly, it kept me from posting. It kept other people with extensive knowledge on the subject of Jazz Manouche from posting as well because when we did, no one responded, no one was interested, no one cared. So I decided that I would make sure that those very same people responsible for the bunk in other groups couldn't post it here.

    The proof in the pudding. The few detailed threads that we've had on this section (started by myself, you, Andrew and others) would never have survived on any of the other groups. That alone says enough about this segment of the site. You and other people have asked questions, and not gotten burned - nor have I ever burned anyone for being interested in curious about this music because it's people like you that I'm dedicating this to! I want this to be a page for fostering and explaining the old school of this music and everything about it, not that other crap because frankly, nowhere else can I focus strictly on this topic. I want people who have never heard of Mondine Garcia to learn about him and his music. I believe my message has scared off the very people who have done the destruction on the other groups, which is fine by me.

    If you feel offended or frightened, that was not my intention. Please feel free to post and ask all the questions that you want, let's keep the topics relegated to Gypsy Jazz (or jazz as it relates to Gypsy Jazz) and players. Like I wrote at the end, let's have FUN and exchange ideas and information because it surely won't happen elsewhere.

    Best Regards,

    Ted

    PS: Troy's post was facetious, I play with him every week and he likes to think that much of what comes out of his mouth is verbal diarrhea - which of course it isn't.... :lol:
  • CalebFSUCalebFSU Tallahassee, FLModerator Made in USA Dell Arte Hommage
    Posts: 557
    Hey guys I hope that I am not stepping on toes here but for rookies who are brand new to this style of Music and have never heard of Moreno much less Tchan-Tchou; feel free to post questions in the 101 section. I am no where near as Knowledgable as Ted in this area and the fact that he is moderating the History section is perfect, I am also of the oppinion that if you really want to learn about this music Ted is the cat to talk to. That being said if you just want to ask basic questions use the 101 board. I will be as helpfull as I can and If I don't know the answer someone will.
    Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work hard.
  • lukejazzlukejazz Natchitoches, Louisiana✭✭✭ Dunn Belleville
    Posts: 22
    For those long url's you might give this a try:

    http://tinyurl.com/

    lukejazz
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