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I feel that Gonzalo's not saying "don't interact." I feel that he's saying keep it simple and grooving.
Towards the end of the video, he starts mentioning how great a small and simple fill is when it fits (rather than interferes) with what the soloist is doing.
First off, in a jam, one has to keep it basic, as one does the first times one plays with someone new. As the combo grows, the potential for using different voicings to get a nice line running through the harmony grows as does the opportunity to have a lLITTLE rhythmic creativity. It's very very important when doing this to NOT step on the soloist.
Newcomers to the genre may not realize that the rhythm guitar is really filling two roles in the rhythm section. I wonder if a lot of jazz guitarists don't get that coming in.
I am saddened to hear that guys like SW and GB are saying keep it basic. To me that says they wouldn't want to play with the guy that started it all. It seems that its kinda like the bluegrass scene that ended up with bluegrass and NewGrass for those who tired of playing it he same old way. Tchaikovsky gets it. His rhythm demo is great IMO.
Oh Well.
Not sure why the prejudice against music grads. Either someone is into this genre or not. If they are not, why hire them.
indeed, certain players really dont care what the rhythm player does as long as it s steady... when i played rhythm for stephane on a few occasions, he just told me to hit the strings as violently as possible hahaha
with gonzalo, he wanted a heavy 2 and 4, on certains songs he wanted a marching feel, etc
stochelo wanted triads on traditional waltzes
joscho didnt seem to care
yorgui wanted a heavy-ish rhythm but not as violent as stephane
lollo wanted certain voicings on certain chords
wawau wanted me to follow his dynamics, and to play straight downstrokes with a heavy feel yet to remain soft in volume
etc. etc.. they all want different things, and i love it when people give me feedback because i learn something new and it gets me thinking... i could write a whole lot more about my experiences with each player ! there s a lot of intersting things that i learned from many pf them
btw i ve also got to work with nous che, he says i should use only wrist and never arm which i dont agree with... i respect his opinion of course, but i think one shouldnt be too dogmatic about the mechanics of rhythm playing, everything depends on context. for sure, on fast songs, it should be wrist, but on slower and heavier songs, i feel the arm helps give it a bit more drive.. and on slower bossas the arm helps keep the beat steady and straight... my two cents anyway
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Jay, I think you are mistaking Django's rhythm approach with what he had HIS rhythm guys playing, which was actually pretty damned simple. If the rhythm bitch is keeping a nice, uncluttered, steady drive, the lead player can play lots of adventuresome fills and fancier stuff a la Django. Note that Django had some monster rhythm players behind him, but the fancy moves were reserved for Django, and Django alone. If everyone is making ninja moves, they are all going to be tripping over each other, and the song is going to have a higher chance of losing it's way. Anyway, it shouldn't make you sad. They are just giving advice about the best way for rhythm players to fit in with a group that has a lead player.
I think it's very different if it's just two guitars jamming. Then maybe the rhythm player adds some fancier things to propel the song forward and to interact with the lead player. But when there are multiple guitars going, keep it simple, if you are the rhythm bitch.
I am not sure I am communicating well. Rule number 1 is listen, rule number 2 is don't step on the soloist. If soloist is wailing away with notes chord shots and all, there is not much room to do anything other than keep time unless one knows the other really well and a really high level musical conversation is taking place. Those are quite rare in my experience, even with seasoned pros. And if someone is really busy, less is more,
You are either up late or up early amigo. Incidentally, got a bottle of Talisker Storm from my son last Friday (65 now officially over the hill). Fabulous.
Comping for a violinist is a very different game than backing a fellow guitar player...
When two guitars or more play together the one playing the solo is the 1st guitar (Django's role) and the rest should fall into the 2nd, 3rd, etc... Which in my opinion should be a very simple, swinging rhythm like Django's accompanists played.
When playing rhythm I wouldn't recommend you try to play like Django, instead try to emulate the way the other guitars backed him.
I personally hate it when someone starts doing tremolos or keeps doing little rhythm effects behind me when it's my turn to solo...
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In my heart I beleive that Django would have loved to play guitar WITH another guitar player of the similar caliber. Charlie Christian? I doubt Django would have played guitar BEHIND anyone once he had made it into the limelight
Pity Django and Charlie never got to meet and play together. That would have been a jam for the ages!