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Which Django Era?

Teddy DupontTeddy Dupont Deity
edited February 2014 in History Posts: 1,168
Which Django era do you prefer? I thought these were probably the best divisions in terms of his musical style.
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  • pickitjohnpickitjohn South Texas Corpus, San Antonio, AustinVirtuoso Patenotte 260
    Posts: 936
    My preference at this Moment would be...

    The late 30's
    &
    The late 40's
    pick on
    Pickitjohn
  • StringswingerStringswinger Santa Cruz and San Francisco, CA✭✭✭✭ 1993 Dupont MD-20
    Posts: 391
    I think that by the mid 1940's, Django's playing had improved significantly. He played more blue notes, had better phrasing and had absorbed more jazz vocabulary. To me, his earlier work sounds corny and stiff. His last work in the early 50's was a work in progress. He sounds like a swing era jazzman trying to make the switch to a bebopper. Had he lived, he probably would have been one of the best (if not THE best) modern jazz guitarists. As his last work was not fully developed, I voted for the middle period in the poll.

    A more interesting poll question might be: Which guitarist do you like the best out Of Fapy, Bireli or Boulou? It is the same question posed in a different manner. Of those three, I would choose Bireli.

    Cheers,

    Marc
    www.hotclubpacific.com
  • MatteoMatteo Sweden✭✭✭✭ JWC Modele Jazz, Lottonen "Selmer-Maccaferri"
    Posts: 348
    Lately, I have been listening a lot to recordings from 1937 and from 1946–1947. It seems to me that some things he did in 1937, among them those together with Michel Warlop, points forward to his expressionistic period in the first half of the 1940's. Recordings from both of those periods have a charm all of their own that I can't resist. But I'm also getting severe kicks right now from the postwar years, with Django as a master swing jazz soloist. Marvellous stuff! Yes, very hard to choose, but this points me in the direction of the 1940–1946 alternative. It varies, though. Half a year ago I was totally absorbed by the Rome and radio sessions boxes.
  • Joli GadjoJoli Gadjo Cardiff, UK✭✭✭✭ Derecho, Bumgarner - VSOP, AJL
    Posts: 542
    The early stuff is the sound people like and know the most... Not many have really gone adventurous with the late stuff like Flèche d'Or, Nuit de St- Germain...
    - JG
  • BonesBones Moderator
    Posts: 2,736
    It may sound trite or whatever but I like it all. I like the early classic stuff all the way thru to the later more modern bop-ish influence.
  • I love it all but my favela his late stuff
    The Magic really starts to happen when you can play it with your eyes closed
  • bopsterbopster St. Louis, MOProdigy Altamira M30, Wide Sky PL-1
    Posts: 431
    We HAVE to choose? Not fair!
  • Teddy DupontTeddy Dupont Deity
    Posts: 1,168
    bopster wrote: »
    We HAVE to choose? Not fair!

    You are right and in all honesty, even though I set the poll, I must admit I could not choose. 8-| There is fabulous playing in all eras.

    Interestingly, although the majority of the music that is played as gypsy jazz is mainly pre-war Django, the poll indicated a preference for the other eras.

    I realised I should have added another option but when I tried to modify the poll to include it, I found it was only possible by completely deleting the previous poll and all the votes that had been cast. So it's back to square one. :mad:
  • Charles MeadowsCharles Meadows WV✭✭✭ ALD Original, Dupont MD50
    Posts: 432
    Stringswinger, Interesting comparison with Fapy, Bireli and Boulou. Why did you chose those 3?
  • StringswingerStringswinger Santa Cruz and San Francisco, CA✭✭✭✭ 1993 Dupont MD-20
    edited February 2014 Posts: 391
    @Charles, I think Fapy is a bit of a one trick pony. He plays Django's pre-war stuff as well as anyone ever could and is admired (rightfully so) for it. It is not my cup of tea, but I think in the world of Gypsy jazz, it may be the taste of the majority of the Djangophiles.

    Bireli is a post war Django player through and through (and my personal favorite by far of the modern Gypsy jazzers). He plays blue notes, incorporates modern jazz vocabulary, uses an electric guitar as well as acoustic etc.

    Boulou is a modernist through and through. Had Django lived longer, he would surely have gone down the road that Boulou travels. IMO, Boulou plays fantastic music that is beyond the comprehension of most Djangophiles.

    I chose those three, because I think each represents the best of the three eras of the players playing today.

    @Teddy. I would have broken the choices down to 4 periods. Pre 1940, 1940-1945, 1946-1950 and post 1950. Had there been a fourth choice, I would have used Angelo Debarre as my pick for the 1940-45 sound. Bireli would have been the 1946-1950 guy.
    Charles Meadows
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